In tonight’s debate, McCall and Yandell tried to make the case that the eternal subordination of the Son to the Father entails a denial of homoousion. The Argument Here’s their argument: If the Son is eternally subordinate to the Father in all possible worlds, then the Son is necessarily subordinate to the Father. If the [...]
Tag Archives: Kevin Giles
Ware–Grudem vs. McCall–Yandell on the Trinity
A few weeks ago, a friend informed me of this upcoming debate between Bruce Ware & Wayne Grudem and Tom McCall & Keith Yandell. It’s very relevant to my dissertation topic, so I’m looking forward to hearing the results. Hopefully audio and transcripts will be made available. I read a paper from Tom McCall several [...]
Hierarchy Does Not Necessitate Opposition
I’m baffled when I read egalitarians who think that functional hierarchy presupposes disunity or the prospect of it. Take, for example, this statement by Gilbert Bilezikian: One of the weirdest heresies that has been generated in the last century pertains to the postulation of a hierarchical order within the members of the Trinity—as if there [...]
The Failed Strategy of “Trinity & Subordinationism”
Kevin Giles’s The Trinity & Subordinationism is easily one of the worst books I have ever read.1 I say that not because I disagree with the position he defends (i.e., the Son is not in any sense eternally subordinate to the Father); I’m still in the process of evaluating the evidence. Rather, I make that [...]
The Father = The Trinity
This is the assertion of Kevin Giles in The Trinity and Subordinationism (IVP, 2002): Here it is to be recalled that in the Bible and in the early church, the title “Father” is used in two cognate ways: in reference to the Godhead and to the person of the Father. Torrance argues that the Cappadocians’ [...]
I’m Out to Lunch
by Phil Gons on 16. Jul, 2009 in Miscellaneous, Theology
Someone from Elgin, Illinois (which I figured out by looking up his IP address) just tried to leave this encouraging comment on my contact page: I just saw your post about Gilbert Bilezikian may I say that you my friend are out to lunch and need to read you bible more careful and instead of [...]